tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post112932116063252333..comments2023-06-16T06:57:29.173-07:00Comments on ::eclectic::: ::Preaching::jeremy postalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15271169712938295663noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post-1129584270754362132005-10-17T14:24:00.000-07:002005-10-17T14:24:00.000-07:00Hey Dude,I think its an interesting thing. I mysel...Hey Dude,<BR/>I think its an interesting thing. I myself have been thinking lately on a question proposed by Rob Bell, "Is this what God had in mind?" with reagards to church. I think preaching has been used because it is an effective way to "teach" crowds of people. Jesus used it, the apostles used it, and we have used in. I think that the teaching is the key part, but the everything else, the style is up for grabs. Whatever communicates best with and audience is the most effective. I think thats fine. We need to shrink church down to its core in order to assess what it is exactly that church needs to be, and we can equate everything else to style and or tradition. I like the way you're thinkin...wanna stay in touch...I think I'll give ya a call this week...<BR/><BR/>PeaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post-1129518924382889822005-10-16T20:15:00.000-07:002005-10-16T20:15:00.000-07:00Hey Jer! Intriguing topic, I will have to put some...Hey Jer! Intriguing topic, I will have to put some thought into this. I think during different times in our lives we each need different forms of teaching/preaching. I have been blessed to expierance some great "on-fire" churches in the Southern US and loved the way the congregation inter-acted with the pastor. No lengthy conversations,but after the services, which lasted close to three hours, you could tell they followed his sermon. The exciting thing was how the congregations did not rush out to do thier own things, but there were several invitations to go to the homes of various church members to carry on the worship/fellowship. When we arrived they picked up where the pastor left off, and throughout lunch, which led into dinner, everyone got to put in thier thoughts and ideas, how it was something that may or may not effect thier lives. People came and went throughout the day, and at some point the pastor made a brief visit. This was some years ago, and I have re-connected with a lot of these people, and they continue to hold true to this format.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post-1129331571835875602005-10-14T16:12:00.000-07:002005-10-14T16:12:00.000-07:00I agree that a lot of sermons don't really get the...I agree that a lot of sermons don't really get the chance to process in peoples minds and hearts bringing change to their lives. Usually because once the sermon is over everyone is "so what's for lunch and who is it with?" I also agree with Jeff that context changes communication. <BR/><BR/> Questions that arise in my mind:<BR/>-is it effective or even possible to facilitate a conversation between several hundred people with any sense of coherency or focused thought like at a corporate gathering of the Church?<BR/>-are we creating an atmosphere/platform within the Church where spiritual conversation is nurtured as mentinoed above in small groups, web forums, classroom settings, etc.?<BR/><BR/>Maybe we should be looking at a way to faciliate conversation based on the corporate exposition and application of scripture by the pastor/teacher. We definitely need trained and competent people to open the scripture and communicate the truth to our lives. I don't believe conversation stands alone as sufficient for spiritual growth. However conversation based on the revelation of God's written Word, that which has been taught, processed, and experimented with in life, is where I believe real learning takes place. <BR/><BR/>So yeah ... how we do that or something like that is not the easiest question to answer ....Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454306910266057443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post-1129326776293205382005-10-14T14:52:00.000-07:002005-10-14T14:52:00.000-07:00hmmm... like you jer, i think this has just provok...hmmm... like you jer, i think this has just provoked more thoughts than answers.. which makes it effective. ha. Brilliant!<BR/><BR/>contexts change communication.<BR/>i don't know if all effective learning requires conversation... however that will change demographic to demographic.<BR/><BR/>hmmm.....<BR/>interesting.<BR/><BR/>ponder ponder.<BR/>jeff.Jeffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16622226544784106760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17280599.post-1129324068626636852005-10-14T14:07:00.000-07:002005-10-14T14:07:00.000-07:00Isn't that what small groups is for? I can go to t...Isn't that what small groups is for? I can go to ten different churches, expiearance 10 unique styles of "preaching" and walk away from each of those edified in one form or another. From story tellers to expository preachers. Preaching is the delivery of Gods word to His people, from people that were "chosen" by Him to do so....I love going to services on Sunday and absorbing Gods word, it challenges me for the week, it allows me time to reflect on where I am in God's plan for my life....It edifies me!<BR/>Then, there is once a week when I get into my small group and get to interact with the group leader, share and express my points of view, listen to others, and then pray that each of us have learned from this.....and pray that our needs, our hurts etc are all left at the cross ,and we can carry on our walk.....<BR/>in the classroom i am lucky to have a mixture of great teachers, all of whom are open to answering questions as they arise, not just by me but others in the group...that is a different call as well....teaching<BR/>but to try and change what Christ modeled for us...I dunno?<BR/><BR/>just my ramblings for the dayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com